Why You Should Avoid Working For Chase Bank At All Costs

Chase Bank personal banker experience

Chase Bank – A great place to be treated like a dog.

A reader recently posted a very detailed account of what it’s like working as a personal banker at Chase Bank in the forum.

I am re-posting it here on the homepage (with permission) so that more people can see it. I think it is important that prospective employees of Chase Bank get a first hand account of what they should expect if they go to work for the company. It’s a long read, but well worth it.

I recently left Chase after being a personal banker there for a little over a year. I wanted to share my experience, the good and the bad, with you so that you will be able to make an informed decision about joining the company. Hopefully, after reading my post, you’ll decide not to make that decision, and find something that will leave your soul intact.

After graduating from college, I was working in retail making close to minimum wage. I really did enjoy my job, but without the help of those student loans for living expenses, I wouldn’t be able to keep that job and pay the rent, so I began my search to find a job that would! I started looking at companies I could apply to online, that had a large presence in my area. Chase popped up everywhere. They will always have more opportunities than any other institution on CareerBuilder, Monster, their website, etc. This should have been a red flag to me. If they constantly have that many positions that means that many people are constantly leaving (the turn around with Chase is very high). Granted, Chase is constantly expanding, but the rate they are expanding versus the open opportunities just don’t match up. I looked right past this and I saw that as my opportunity to land that job with a big name company that would put a roof over my head and groceries in the fridge.


I applied to a personal banker position since I fit the background requirements. You’ll need a strong background in retail and sales. You don’t need a college degree for this job, which always irritated me. Why did I get myself into all this debt and work so hard for 4 years of my life, so I can be making the same as the guy with just a high school diploma sitting next to me?

Most people think bankers (a term i use loosely, I never felt like a “banker”, it’s much more of a glorified car salesman position) make a lot of money. Truth is, we get paid very little, especially when you take into consideration what we have to deal with. All PB’s, regardless of age, education, or experience start out at Chase making the same base. It may be higher in some of the more expensive areas, but in general, it was 32K. That equals out to about $15 bucks an hour. You will have the opportunity to make commission, which is heavily taxed at 30%. So all in all, if you are hitting your sales goals, after taxes, you’ll be bringing in about $2,700 a month. Not horrible, but if you don’t make your goals you are looking at a solid $2,000 a month. Way less than I imagine the general population thinks we make.

If you don’t know what a position of a personal banker entails, let me briefly describe it for you. As a PB (personal banker) you will be working on the retail side of banking. Sure, you’ll be dealing with customers who come in and have questions about their account or need some advice on financial products (most of the time you’ll be interacting with angry customers about Chase’s ridiculous fees for their services, but that’s a different story). However, usually you will be trying to make a sale by stalking customers in the lobby, or calling a list of customers in the area to see if they would be interested in coming in and talking to you about the newest product or promotion. It’s not really a banking position, you are just a sales person whose job is to push products and services on whoever walks through that door.

I understand Chase is a business, and what cuts our paychecks and keeps the doors open are the sales of its products. However, the tactics Chase uses to make these sales are unmoral. To their benefit, I do understand the general theory of what this institution is trying to accomplish. They are wanting to make walking into a Chase branch an “experience”. They want their clients to feel welcomed, have a short and efficient visit, and leave smiling. However, they are using ridiculous, cheesy tactics to make this occur. You’ll have morning huddles every morning that will consist of your fellow PB’s, yourself, and some tellers. You’ll find at these meetings the same topic, called the “customer experience” is beaten to a bloody pulp by going over the same thing over and over and over again. I am not stretching the truth one bit when I say that many of these huddles have consisted of us making lists of different small talk topics we can discuss with a client such as the weather, their new shoes, if they are on lunch break, or their new purse.

It also consisted of where we should stand when greeting a customer that will look the most professional, the way we should say hello. The tone in our voice, etc. I wish I could say I was lying, but I’m not. I consider myself very personable, and able to talk to customers in a way that will leave them feeling welcomed. Some customers are ok with just a warm hello, and want to go on their way to make the deposit. Other customers are more than happy to have this small talk conversation with you. But those customers are a rare 25%. The rest of the customers are bothered by your over exaggerated chipperness. Chase needs to back off with the pressure to be overly friendly, and let us bankers find a comfortable medium where we will come off as sincere. Customers see right through this nonsense.

I heard before I began at the bank that the sales focus was even worse. They just started to try to “focus on the customers instead of sales” recently. I can’t imagine how much worse it was before I started at the bank, but I don’t think I would have even lasted a day in the old environment.

Chase will tell you they’ve got rid of the scripting, however, they will tell you down to the smallest detail what to say, and then say “but feel free to make it your own”. Essentially, making it your own is throwing in a unique greeting, or maybe changing the order of the words. It is still very scripted.


I do feel bad for most of the branch managers at Chase. Most of them are good people who have just been beaten down and brain washed by this company. I’ve had the pleasure (another term I use loosely) of working at a few different branches. I’ve worked in a large, high volume branch, and a very small, low volume branch. I’ve found the tactics, atmosphere, and overall suck factor is still the same regardless of your location or team.

Chase branches are VERY VERY VERY VERY (did I say VERY?!) highly micromanaged environments. There will not be a day where your branch manager or assistant branch manager are not breathing down your neck, watching you make sales phone calls, or greeting customers. I consider myself to be a trust worthy employee, I work best when I’m not getting stalked to do my job. It almost makes me want to do the opposite and not do a thing because I get so frustrated. I always felt like I had eyes watching and ears listening and judging every conversation or interaction I had with a client. I can’t explain it, but the micromanaging is ridiculous there. You won’t really know what I mean until you experience it for yourself.

For those of you who want to know a little more detail about my experience, read on! For those of you who don’t feel like reading my rant, just take away this! Chase made me mental and physical health suffer. I gained weight, I got depressed, I lost touch with family and friends. All for a stupid $15 an hour sales job. If you’re where I was a few years ago, you’re reading this but don’t have the courage to get out while you can. You want to experience it for yourself because it can’t be that bad. Take my advice and find another job! If I can save one person from subjecting themselves to this slave labor, my work here is done! If you’re taking the job because you are interested in banking, still a wrong move. Your day will consist of badgering people to make a sale, and greeting customers. You will be more of a Wal-Mart greeter and a cars salesman just conveniently located in a bank. This isn’t a stepping stone to advancement. Chase has many higher up positions (in fact, the PB’s of Chase are the laughing stock of the rest of JP Morgan Chase), but these positions have strict requirements. They’ll fill your head about being able to advance, but regardless of how great you are with clients, how skilled you are in your job, if you don’t hit the sales numbers for months and months in a row, don’t even think about ever being able to leave your measly PB position.

Now, Chase does have great benefits as far as insurance goes. I paid about $40 a month for mental, dental, and vision. They have a 401K that they will start matching you up to 5% after a year, and provide life insurance. You’ll get a few discount perks (nothing major) on online shopping, and a free employee account with free checks and a free savings account. Chase does offer a few good products, don’t get me wrong. Their online system is the best in the industry, their ATM’s are located everywhere, and their freedom credit card is one of the best in the industry. I did also form a few good friendships while I was there. I’ve never met a banker who was happy in their position. We all day dreamed about leaving, bitched about how much we hated our jobs, and formed a sense of camaraderie over our misery. For most, the position sucked them in. The economy’s hard, this job pays the bills, and personal misery be damned they were staying. I felt trapped for a long time, but after realizing I’ve stopped living my life because I’m so mentally mind fucked by the end of the day, all I want to do is sleep on the couch and eat, I finally realized I needed to get out NOW!

So I did the unthinkable and resigned without another position lined up. Stupid? yes, but also freeing? yes. I’ve been on a few interviews, and when they get to my part of the resume that has Chase, they will say something along the lines of “I had a few good friends that worked there/or I used to work there, no further explanation on why you left is necessary”. It’s that bad. It has this horrible rep for a reason. I recently had a recruiter who works for another financial institution tell me that they felt so free when they left Chase, and its’ a good thing I left. I’ve never found a company with such a reputation. Every banker you meet will be miserable and seeking for another job. Even many of the loan officers and financial advisers, who are more partners working in your branch versus being employed by Chase, are unhappy since everyday they are subjected to this shitty environment.

You will have a crappy work schedule. You will NEVER have a Saturday off. You will have one day off during the week, and Sunday off. Saturday is a short day, so the rest of the days you work you are working 9 or 10 hour shifts to make up for that short day. That may not seem so bad, but when you are at Chase for 9 or 10 hours, you’d kill for Saturday to have normal business hours so you could just go home and have some time to have a life the rest of the week! Those who have stuck it out long enough to have seniority will work in the morning, 8 to 5. The rest of you will work 9 to 6 or 9 to 7. You won’t have two small 15 minute breaks. All you will get is a 30 minute (sometimes 45 minutes to an hour depending on the branch) lunch break. They used to work us for 6 hours straight without one break just because our state law says you can do so. If you run to the break room to grab a quick bite of a granola bar because you’re going to pass out, I’ve seen people have to stay late one day as punishment. So get ready to work long days with basically no breaks. You’ll constantly want to bang your head against the wall every morning. I can’t tell you how many times on my way to work I just wanted to drive my car into a tree (sound dramatic? you haven’t worked for this company. just wait).

I’m sure by now you’ve read about the 123 drill and working the lobby! Working the lobby is literally trying to take each and every customer that comes in to your desk. Then you execute the 123 drill. This is making sure their home address, phone number, work location, and email are correct. Then you also want to make sure they are in the right accounts. Seems decent in theory, but in reality, that person at your desk only came in to make a deposit, and were just asked if everything was correct in the system a week ago. They are annoyed, in a hurry, and you feel the anxiety building as you’re trying to make a sale so your BM will get off your back, but they are sitting there texting on their phone not listening to a word you are saying. Chase states working the lobby is great for the customers because this is a way to look out for their best interests by keeping them up to date in their accounts. False, this is a way to have your entire profile in front of us so we can look into your account to find ways to sell you something. Working the lobby is a mind numbing and awkward experience. Many customers in line try not to make eye contact while you’re walking up to them so you’ll leave them alone. You feel like a vulture, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

PVC’s are personal value credits, and the way you earn commission. Everything you sell has a credit. For example, a checking account is 20 credits. These values are always changing so Chase can make it harder to meet your goals. Anyway, At the end of the month, if you’ve made enough credits ( usually 1,000) you will get commission (taxed at 30%) on next month’s paycheck. I was a top seller at my previous company, but since I couldn’t badger people to get things they didn’t need, or credit cards when they are already in debt, I rarely made my goals. I was bringing in about 700 PVC’s each month. It’s impossible to hit 1,000 without closing a mortgage that month. So you’ll be doing a lot of calling to people with mortgages to see if they want to refinance. This will be your bread and butter to get paid. However, Chase just literally cut in half what you make on loans, so now it will be even that much harder to meet your goals and make commission.

I felt anxious all day at my job, and depressed as soon as I got home. I remember being jealous of client’s I sat with as they talked about their jobs. I remember wishing I could just walk out that door with them. This isn’t normal. I’ve always been a very hard worker, and loved working! I worked full time during school, and usually was working close to 60 hours a week. I was the person you could call when you didn’t feel good to come in. Now, I dreaded work, and my days off were like heaven to me. Everyone else felt this way as well. It’s like the plague. You will hate your job, and you will dread going to work more than anything you’ve ever dreaded before in your life. Trust me.

There is training for this position as well. Paid training which is nice. You’ll be in a classroom setting with other PB’s close to your start date, and will spend about 8 hours learning about products, sales tactics, role playing, etc. I used to love training because it was a break from the real world of personal banking. Role playing is something you will do every day in training, but more importantly, every day in your branch. ROLE PLAYING IS THE DEVIL! You’ll take turn with your fellow coworkers while the branch is dead, or at the morning huddle, to take turns being the banker, the customer, and the teller. You’ll do this in front of everyone else, specifically your branch manager or distract manager if they are visiting. Then you’ll have the pleasure of getting everything you did criticized down to a tee. It’s such a fake conversation while role playing, and so ridiculous. I hated role playing, it was the vain of my existence.

I’m not a bitter employee ranting about just all the negatives. I left Chase on good terms, and appreciate the name being on my resume. They did screw me over in one aspect, and since I don’t want to give too much detail on here about it, all I’ll say is that I was supposed to get a bonus I earned during the three months I was there before I left. I was set to get that bonus at the end of the month I was leaving. Since I was leaving one day before the bonus was set to get paid, I didn’t’ get it. I was actively employed all three months while earning the bonus, but they found a way not to pay me since I was leaving 12 hours before that bonus was supposed to hit my account. That, my friends, made me very bitter. But I can promise you what I just told you was my experience 100%. If there was any good to my experience I tried to include it.

Right before I left, Chase is giving their employees what they call “wow” cards. It’s a small business card that on the front says “wow, I’m sold on you!”, and on the back has Chase’s website and recruiters phone number for the respective area. We are supposed to hand these out to employees that we think did a great customer service job while we are out and about. For example, if we go to Wal-Mart, and the cashier there was super friendly, we are supposed to ask them, and I quote “are you happy with your job? I was sold on your customer service. I think you’d be a great fit with chase”, and hand them the card. HOW DESPERATE IS THIS COMPANY FOR EMPLOYEES? DEAR GOD!

Overall, all I can do is warn you not to take this position. You will end up miserable, one way or another. If you have had similar experiences, or just want to bitch please feel free to reply to this post! If you have any questions for me about the job, I’ll be checking the replies on here and am more than happy to answer any questions you may have. I wish had been able to do that before I took the position.

Also, there’s a YouTube video I found, though you will find many that shows exactly what I had to deal with in the days leading to my leaving. It’s a funny video, and I recommend watching it.

Take care, and good luck to anyone still employed with Chase! You’re in my prayers!

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208 thoughts on “Why You Should Avoid Working For Chase Bank At All Costs

  1. Scott

    I was just let go last week after working for the company for 2 1/2 years. It was great the first year as a teller. Then I applied to be a PB and got the job. Yippy skippy right? I was on my way to a successful career in Banking!.!…. until I realized what had really happened. Took about 3 months to figure it out. transferred into the shit whole known as in-store. Boy, I did not know what I was getting myself into. To top it off, we had a new DM come to the district and let me tell you, this guy was a dickhead in every way possible. His face screamed dick. He was literally a dick face. Rob is name and if you know him, you know exactly what i mean.

    I knew it was bad when half the branch managers quit, even the one that hired me who was great! Now chase is bringing in these guys and girls to take their spots, yet all the bonuses are being cut in half. I really did feel bad for the branch managers who had worked years building the client base and then handed off to some 27 year old willing to work for half the price and have no fucking clue what they are doing.

    I did everything i could to make sales. I actually did pretty darn good and passed the other two bankers in about 3 months in points. Then shit hit the fan. For some reason my dm (dick for a face) came in with fire in his eyes and looked like he wanted to kill me. He took me to the back and went off. was saying things to me I couldn’t believe. Things i would normal beat the shit out of someone for saying. but I held my composure and once the meeting was over left for the day. At one point he said he wished he could “kick my ass.” Like what the hell is wrong with this guy. you want to fight me? over what, some checking accounts? Yes this is how chase treats its employees. Don’t let these fake ass posts on here fool you. I could make this up if I tried.

    You could only imagine going back into work after that. BUT I didnt quit. Im not one to run with my tail between my legs. I stuck it out and Im damn proud of myself for doing it. yes, I did end up getting fired, but I didn’t give up! I knew from then on as long as i was in his district, nothing good was going to happen. I even stuck it out in the branch for over a year (that’s when you can transfer out) but was put on written warning days after I mentioned I wanted to transfer. shocker.

    I was fired last week for an account opening error. The funny thing is my BM told me everything was ok. Im sure she was just doing what she had to do to save her ass and im willing to bet she knew that was the perfect excuse to get me fired. oh and the original bm was fired about 4 months before this. Probably because she couldnt get me fired fast enough. Go figure. A LOT of turnover, at least in my district.

    Thats my chase experience. You take away what you want from it. If you ask me I probably just got stuck with a nightmare of a DM. But he wouldn’t be the DM if its not what chase wanted. and i know he is doing what ever the hell his manager is telling him to do as well. so for that i say screw you chase. you have lost a lot of great people this year. but damn it does feel good to not have to go back into that windowless soul sucking cave.

  2. Jay

    Haha you only made an additional 700 on bonus? You must have been lacking in sales and relationship building experience. I am doing about 3k extra a month. It isn’t easy but you can earn a lot more than that. There is also a benefit of getting your finra license that they pay for which is another great thing to go on your resume. Typical college grad wanting high pay handed to you.

  3. Ryan

    This description is spot on. I worked for Chase for almost 8 years before leaving about 3 years ago to another bank. You are not a banker you are a glorified checking account salesman. In all my years I figured out what to focus on to hit my PVCs and not once closed a mortgage or car loan. Don’t get me wrong I am grateful for the money I earned. I was a national banker for two years just because I knew how to sell what mattered….checking accounts. I did this also being in an in-store I always thought that being a banker would include helping people finance things in their life and structure deals that would help business grow. Well that might be true elsewhere but at Chase it’s all about the checking accounts and other BS “sticky products.” I would hound businesses to sign on to their online banking because that’s what paid out. I would forget the customers name as soon as I made the sale and rarely follow up with them after. As far as it being detrimental to your health I agree. Just before I left I was diagnosed with Chrones, but months after leaving the stress left and so did my symptoms. As far as micro managing, as long as you hit your goals you are fine. I never felt direct pressure from my managers but knew what it would be like if I wasn’t the top banker at my branch so the pressure was self inflicted. I did stay in the industry after leaving before going back to school for my masters and I can tell you that there are other banks that are better to work for. Wells Fargo is the cousin of Chase but Key Bank actually wants bankers. I learned more in 1 year at Key Bank as far as being an actual banker then 8 years at Chase. I look back and realize if you give your life to Chase you can do alright but why not put that same effort into a career that pays better and treats you better. I still have close friends that work at Chase and I try to get them to leave to see how better it can be elsewhere. I also hear about their changes and how strict they are on their procedures and just laugh. I know they have to be strict because of the numerous lawsuits they have. Another thing I just thought of was even when I was on top of the sales leader board I would always get a call from an internal investigator accusing me of cheating the system or having fraudulent sales. This was the last straw for me. I included my manager in on almost all my sales and since the micromanaged me they knew I wasn’t doing anything wrong just being the robot they wanted me to be. One of the best days of my life was placing my resignation letter on my manager’s desk and getting calls days after from my District Leader to come back. Chase pays the bills but the price is too high.

  4. john

    Why didn’t you work in something related to your college degree since it “bothered” you that they didn’t require a degree for the job. This whole thing just sounds like a entitled 22 year old complaining because he had to work in a real job for the first time in his life so he had the needed to bash the place to make himself feel better about how much he sucks. Wake up dude, you’re a loser!

  5. unnamed

    I was a PB with chase and LOVED it until I transferred to a new branch. With the new EBK’s ( express banking kiosk ). I made a mistake transferring from my branch I was hired at to this shit hole new build with this old bitch that was with the company for 25 yrs and bearly got promoted to a branch mgr at some small 1400 square branch. This ( UNNAMED MGR ) fired me on valentines day for supposedly leaving customer info out in my drawer unlocked and out new drawers don’t have locks nor can we lock up stuff in the back because anyone can access your personal stuff. I had no issues until I transferred and wish I could be rehired and be a tmy first branch I was hired at cause I had it good and made money there.

  6. Maggie

    If you only took home about $700 then something is wrong with your sales approach. I knew people in the telephone banking department who took home more than that when they used to do sales. It’s a fucking business, hence the customer service approach. Besides that, if someone doesn’t like the department they’re in, then they need to look at applying for other positions in the bank, there are TONS of opportunities to move around and find something new than just bitching about it.

  7. R.j. Murphy

    I’m married forty years and after beating the pavement interviewing for jobs for which I was “overqualified”, I finally turned to my wife (she was an executive secretary for a Senior V..P. at Chase Manhattan Bank) to see if. I cod get an interview there. Ask anyone how difficult it was to get a job – ANY job – back in 1974, and you’ll hear horror stories.

    Anyway, long story short, I was hired by a V.P. in the Real Estate Finance Department at 1 Chase Plaza at a starting salary of $ 150 a week and began my career as. a “banker” forty years ago today. Over that time – twenty-seven years worth – I made some great friendships, worked for terrific bosses and had a few not-so-nice superiors as well. The first twenty years were spent in Real Estate and the last seven in Private Banking.

    I was cut loose after the merger with JP MORGAN on February 11th, 2001 along with ten thousand other folks world-wide. I broke my ass to get where I was on the food chain when the merger with JPM cost me and a number of my friends our jobs.

    If you do go to work for a corporate bank know this: go in with your eyes open. You will never get rich workjng for a bank. The security isn’t the gratest nor will you get rich, but’s it’s a good place to start a career if you find ghe spot and apply for it ASAP.

    Don’t be a whiney baby and expect that a job in a bank – ANY JOB – owes you a living. IT DOESN’T! Apply yourself and give it a shot. If it doesn’t work out, move on and grow up.

  8. b

    WELLS FARGO IS JUST AS BAD….CRAZY!!! VERY HIGH TURNOVER AT ALL LEVELS WHICH COULD PUT THIER CUSTOMERS PRIVATE AND PERSONAL FINANCIAL INFO AT RISK.

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